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Jutsu: Substitution, Doppelgangers, Transformation

PostSubject: Changing Starting Jutsu   Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:19 am

(Please also see review in News!)

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Who wants the starting jutsu changed so they are more like:

Academy Students start with Substitution,
Transformation, Doppelgangers. These are the academy/starter jutsu.

Genin
may have the academy Jutsu and 6 D-Rank Jutsu and 2 C-Rank Jutsu

Chuunin may
have academy Jutsu, 10 D-Rank Jutsu and 6 C-Rank Jutsu and 4 B-Rank Jutsu and 1 A-Rank Jutsu

Jounin
(both kinds) may have starting Jutsu, 12 D-Rank Jutsu and 8 C-Rank Jutsu, 6 B-Rank Jutsu, 4 A-Rank Jutsu and 1 S-Rank Jutsu

-Special Circumstance Kage-
Kages
may have all E-rank Jutsu corresponding to their element(s), 20 D-Rank
Jutsu, 10 C-Rank jutsu, 8 B-Rank Jutsu, 6 A-rank Jutsu and 4 S-rank
Jutsu.
-Kages have the element of their village and one other
element.-
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Jutsu: Substitution, Doppelgangers, Transformation, Hidden Mist Jutsu, Suiben - Water Whip, Ninja Art: Grudge Rain, Hiraishin - Sparking Electric Needle,

PostSubject: Re: Changing Starting Jutsu   Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:35 am

Sounds good to me.
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Jutsu: Substitution, Doppelgangers, Transformation

PostSubject: Re: Changing Starting Jutsu   Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:05 am

Sure, any more opinions?

-Compensation to those already made their char wold be offered-

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Jutsu: Substitution, Doppelgangers, Transformation

PostSubject: Re: Changing Starting Jutsu   Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:59 am

I dont think jounin should have S-rank jutsu, and the limit of D-C is pretty low. On most sites i have there isint even a limit.
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Ryo: 100
Jutsu: Substitution, Doppelgangers, Transformation,summoning jutsu,Bringer-of-Darkness Technique,Hokage-Style Sixty-Year-Old Technique - Kakuan Entering Society with Bliss-Bringing Hands,Daijurin - Great Forest Technique ,Jubaku - Tree Restraints ,Moku Bunshin - Wood Clone Technique ,Moku Shouheki - Wood Barrier Technique,Mokuton • Henge - Wood Element Transformation ,Shichuurou - Four Pillar Prison Technique ,Haisekishou - Burning Ash Accumulation,Dai Endan - Great Firebal,Mizurappa - Violent Water Wave,Daibakuryuu - Great Exploding Current,Teppoudama - Bullet,Suirou - Water Prison Technique,Five Sharks Eating,Suijinheki - Water Encampment Wall,Suikoudan - Water Shark Projectile Technique,Daibakufu- Grand Waterfall Technique,Moguragakure - Mole Hiding Technique,Dorou Doumu - Earth Barrier • Earth Dome Prison,Doryuudan - Earth Dragon Projectile

PostSubject: Re: Changing Starting Jutsu   Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:13 am

same ANARCHY most site's im in some people would have 100 jutsu at chunin genin if there was that many E and D rank jutsu
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Ryo: 100
Jutsu: Substitution, Doppelgangers, Transformation

PostSubject: Re: Changing Starting Jutsu   Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:14 am

But how would you learn so many jutsu >.<"
Plus, if people could start with 100 (assuming) and made some D rank counters, then characters could too easily be invincible - its about choosing what you want, not having everything.

(Like playing a card game and you can only have 60 cards/1000 in your deck, you gotta choose what you want)

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Major Skill : Fuuinjutsu
Minor Skills : Medical

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Ryo: 100
Jutsu: Substitution, Doppelgangers, Transformation, Hidden Mist Jutsu, Suiben - Water Whip, Ninja Art: Grudge Rain, Hiraishin - Sparking Electric Needle,

PostSubject: Re: Changing Starting Jutsu   Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:24 am

yes but you do have a chakra supply its not like you could use all 100 of the jutsu. I'm with both of them but i do like the idea of a limit. I mean with the right cards someone can easily beat someone with a full deck right? Its not the size that matters its how you use it. Wink
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Ryo: 100
Jutsu: Substitution, Doppelgangers, Transformation

PostSubject: Re: Changing Starting Jutsu   Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:25 am

It indeed isn't the size - it's how you use it.

Does everyone agree with current limits? Please post suggestions if not.

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Ryo: 100
Jutsu: Substitution, Doppelgangers, Transformation, Hidden Mist Jutsu, Suiben - Water Whip, Ninja Art: Grudge Rain, Hiraishin - Sparking Electric Needle,

PostSubject: Re: Changing Starting Jutsu   Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:29 am

I say get rid of S-rank for jounin. Add a couple more D, and C for jounin limit sanin/kage 3 S-rank add couple more D, C, B, A
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Ninja Stats
Ryo: 100
Jutsu: Substitution, Doppelgangers, Transformation

PostSubject: Re: Changing Starting Jutsu   Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:42 am

Academy Students start with Substitution,
Transformation,
Doppelgangers. These are the academy/starter jutsu.

Genin
may have the academy Jutsu and 6 D-Rank Jutsu and 2 C-Rank Jutsu

Chuunin
may
have academy Jutsu, 10 D-Rank Jutsu and 6 C-Rank Jutsu
and 4 B-Rank Jutsu and 1 A-Rank Jutsu

Jounin
(both kinds) may have starting Jutsu, 14 D-Rank Jutsu and 10 C-Rank
Jutsu, 6 B-Rank Jutsu, 4 A-Rank Jutsu

-Special
Circumstance Kage-
Kages
may have all E-rank
Jutsu corresponding to their element(s), 20 D-Rank
Jutsu, 10 C-Rank
jutsu, 10 B-Rank Jutsu, 8 A-rank Jutsu and 6 S-rank
Jutsu.
-Kages
have the element of their village and one other
element.-

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Element : wood fire water earth
Major Skill : Large amounts of chakra
Minor Skills : Medical skills/Poison resistance

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Ryo: 100
Jutsu: Substitution, Doppelgangers, Transformation,summoning jutsu,Bringer-of-Darkness Technique,Hokage-Style Sixty-Year-Old Technique - Kakuan Entering Society with Bliss-Bringing Hands,Daijurin - Great Forest Technique ,Jubaku - Tree Restraints ,Moku Bunshin - Wood Clone Technique ,Moku Shouheki - Wood Barrier Technique,Mokuton • Henge - Wood Element Transformation ,Shichuurou - Four Pillar Prison Technique ,Haisekishou - Burning Ash Accumulation,Dai Endan - Great Firebal,Mizurappa - Violent Water Wave,Daibakuryuu - Great Exploding Current,Teppoudama - Bullet,Suirou - Water Prison Technique,Five Sharks Eating,Suijinheki - Water Encampment Wall,Suikoudan - Water Shark Projectile Technique,Daibakufu- Grand Waterfall Technique,Moguragakure - Mole Hiding Technique,Dorou Doumu - Earth Barrier • Earth Dome Prison,Doryuudan - Earth Dragon Projectile

PostSubject: Re: Changing Starting Jutsu   Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:39 pm

i think that is really poinless my char is like 20 years old so if my char had 100 jutsu that he does not have , then it would be one jutsu every 2 month so for my char it would be like 1 new jutsu every 5 month that is not bad
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Ninja Stats
Ryo: 100
Jutsu: Substitution, Doppelgangers, Transformation

PostSubject: Re: Changing Starting Jutsu   Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:42 pm

Ok, we are just talking balance, and not everyone's char is 20.

Hmm.

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Rank : S-rank
Element : Suiton, Raiton
Major Skill : Fuuinjutsu
Minor Skills : Medical

Ninja Stats
Ryo: 100
Jutsu: Substitution, Doppelgangers, Transformation, Hidden Mist Jutsu, Suiben - Water Whip, Ninja Art: Grudge Rain, Hiraishin - Sparking Electric Needle,

PostSubject: Re: Changing Starting Jutsu   Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:43 pm

LostLegend wrote:
Academy Students start with Substitution,
Transformation,
Doppelgangers. These are the academy/starter jutsu.

Genin
may have the academy Jutsu and 6 D-Rank Jutsu and 2 C-Rank Jutsu 1 incomplete B-rank jutsu

Chuunin
may
have academy Jutsu, 10 D-Rank Jutsu and 6 C-Rank Jutsu
and 4 B-Rank Jutsu and 1 incomplete A-Rank Jutsu

Jounin
(both kinds) may have starting Jutsu, 14 D-Rank Jutsu and 10 C-Rank
Jutsu, 6 B-Rank Jutsu, 4 A-Rank Jutsu 1 incomplete S-rank jutsu

-Special
Circumstance Kage-
Kages
may have all E-rank
Jutsu corresponding to their element(s), 20 D-Rank
Jutsu, 12 C-Rank
jutsu, 7 B-Rank Jutsu, 8 A-rank Jutsu and 6 S-rank
Jutsu.
-Kages
have the element of their village and one other
element.-

i marked what i think should change in yellow
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Jutsu: Substitution, Doppelgangers, Transformation

PostSubject: Re: Changing Starting Jutsu   Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:46 pm

What do you mean by incomplete?

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Ryo: 100
Jutsu: Substitution, Doppelgangers, Transformation, Hidden Mist Jutsu, Suiben - Water Whip, Ninja Art: Grudge Rain, Hiraishin - Sparking Electric Needle,

PostSubject: Re: Changing Starting Jutsu   Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:48 pm

Just like the rasengan was incomplete. A jutsu that is highly powerful but unstable and takes up most of the persons chakra. Its more of a trump card than something actually practical.
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Jutsu: Substitution, Doppelgangers, Transformation

PostSubject: Re: Changing Starting Jutsu   Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:54 pm

Hmm, nice idea.

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Jutsu: Substitution, Doppelgangers, Transformation

PostSubject: Re: Changing Starting Jutsu   Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:40 am

How is this?


Academy Students

Start with Substitution, Transformation, Doppelgangers. These are the academy/starter jutsu.

Genin
May have the academy Jutsu and 6 D-Rank Jutsu and 2 C-Rank Jutsu 1 incomplete B-rank jutsu

Chuunin
May have academy Jutsu, 10 D-Rank Jutsu and 6 C-Rank Jutsu
and 4 B-Rank Jutsu and 1 incomplete A-Rank Jutsu

Jounin
(both kinds) May have starting Jutsu, 14 D-Rank Jutsu and 10 C-Rank
Jutsu,
6 B-Rank Jutsu, 4 A-Rank Jutsu 1 incomplete S-rank
jutsu

-Special Circumstance Kage-
Kages
May have all E-rank Jutsu corresponding to their element(s), 18
D-Rank Jutsu, 12 C-Rank jutsu, 7 B-Rank Jutsu, 5 A-rank Jutsu and 3 S-rank Jutsu.
-Kages have the element of their village and one other element.-

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Rank : Jounin
Element : Fire, Lightning, Wind
Major Skill : Large amounts of Chakra
Minor Skills : Healing skills and Interogation

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Ryo: 100
Jutsu: Substitution, Doppelgangers, Transformation, Tree Climbing, Water Walking, Body Flicker, Temporary Paralysis Technique, Manipulated Shuriken Technique, Demonic Illusion: Hell Viewing Technique, Leaf Whirlwind, Shadow Shuriken Technique, Chakra Absorbtion Technique, Fireball Jutsu, Great Fireball Technique, Heavanly Spin (Rotation), Sixty-Four Palms, Reversal, Frog Song, Toad Oil Projectile

PostSubject: Re: Changing Starting Jutsu   Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:52 am

looks fine to me but now i gotta go crazy looking for new jutsus lol to complete my Jounin now
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Jutsu: Substitution, Doppelgangers, Transformation

PostSubject: Re: Changing Starting Jutsu   Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:55 am

You can always make some more for use.

Another person to be happy with this and I will immediately use it.

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PostSubject: Re: Changing Starting Jutsu   Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:27 am

I LIKE IT!
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PostSubject: Re: Changing Starting Jutsu   Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:36 am

Implemented.

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PostSubject: Re: Changing Starting Jutsu   Sat Aug 28, 2010 6:51 am

So how are people with already existing chars compensated? Do we just add the extra jutsu to our stats, or does it need to be approved?
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PostSubject: Re: Changing Starting Jutsu   Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:11 am

(See Character creation starting jutsu rules)

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